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15 anos 2 meses atrás #1807 por Mauro Renzi Ferreira
Respondido por Mauro Renzi Ferreira no tópico Re:Pretas
Olha Pablo, aqui no Ranking do Brejas ela está catalogada como American Brown Ale... mas é bem escura, passa como uma Dunkel.
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15 anos 2 meses atrás #1810 por Ricardo Sangion
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Mauro, a American Brown Ale pode ser bem escura, mas não pode ser preta. Tem que ser um pouco translúcida.

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15 anos 2 meses atrás #1812 por Mauro Renzi Ferreira
Respondido por Mauro Renzi Ferreira no tópico Re:Pretas
Oi Ricardo, foi isso mesmo que eu quis dizer... ela [a Preta Rita no caso] é bem escura, mas com certeza você tem razão, ela é um pouco translúcida sim... não é aquele preto "tinta", opaco.
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15 anos 2 meses atrás #1860 por um visitante
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Eu sou meio neurótico com esse negócio de estilos e fiquei curioso sobre as diferenças entre American Brown Ale e Munich Dunkel. Ei-las:

10C. American Brown Ale: Aroma: Malty, sweet and rich, which often has a chocolate, caramel, nutty and/or toasty quality. Hop aroma is typically low to moderate. Some interpretations of the style may feature a stronger hop aroma, a citrusy American hop character, and/or a fresh dry-hopped aroma (all are optional). Fruity esters are moderate to very low. The dark malt character is more robust than other brown ales, yet stops short of being overly porter-like. The malt and hops are generally balanced. Moderately low to no diacetyl.

Appearance: Light to very dark brown color. Clear. Low to moderate off-white to light tan head.

Flavor: Medium to high malty flavor (often with caramel, toasty and/or chocolate flavors), with medium to medium-high bitterness. The medium to medium-dry finish provides an aftertaste having both malt and hops. Hop flavor can be light to moderate, and may optionally have a citrusy character. Very low to moderate fruity esters. Moderately low to no diacetyl.

Mouthfeel: Medium to medium-full body. More bitter versions may have a dry, resiny impression. Moderate to moderately high carbonation. Stronger versions may have some alcohol warmth in the finish.

Overall Impression: Can be considered a bigger, maltier, hoppier interpretation of Northern English brown ale or a hoppier, less malty Brown Porter, often including the citrus-accented hop presence that is characteristic of American hop varieties.

Comments: A strongly flavored, hoppy brown beer, originated by American home brewers. Related to American Pale and American Amber Ales, although with more of a caramel and chocolate character, which tends to balance the hop bitterness and finish. Most commercial American Browns are not as aggressive as the original homebrewed versions, and some modern craft brewed examples. IPA-strength brown ales should be entered in the Specialty Beer category (23).

Ingredients: Well-modified pale malt, either American or Continental, plus crystal and darker malts should complete the malt bill. American hops are typical, but UK or noble hops can also be used. Moderate carbonate water would appropriately balance the dark malt acidity.

OG: 1.045 – 1.060
IBUs: 20 – 40
FG: 1.010 – 1.016
SRM: 18 – 35
ABV: 4.3 – 6.2%

4B. Munich Dunkel: Aroma: Rich, Munich malt sweetness, like bread crusts (and sometimes toast.) Hints of chocolate, nuts, caramel, and/or toffee are also acceptable. No fruity esters or diacetyl should be detected, but a slight noble hop aroma is acceptable.

Appearance: Deep copper to dark brown, often with a red or garnet tint. Creamy, light to medium tan head. Usually clear, although murky unfiltered versions exist.

Flavor: Dominated by the rich and complex flavor of Munich malt, usually with melanoidins reminiscent of bread crusts. The taste can be moderately sweet, although it should not be overwhelming or cloying. Mild caramel, chocolate, toast or nuttiness may be present. Burnt or bitter flavors from roasted malts are inappropriate, as are pronounced caramel flavors from crystal malt. Hop bitterness is moderately low but perceptible, with the balance tipped firmly towards maltiness. Noble hop flavor is low to none. Aftertaste remains malty, although the hop bitterness may become more apparent in the medium-dry finish. Clean lager character with no fruity esters or diacetyl.

Mouthfeel: Medium to medium-full body, providing a firm and dextrinous mouthfeel without being heavy or cloying. Moderate carbonation. May have a light astringency and a slight alcohol warming.

Overall Impression: Characterized by depth and complexity of Munich malt and the accompanying melanoidins. Rich Munich flavors, but not as intense as a bock or as roasted as a schwarzbier.

Comments: Unfiltered versions from Germany can taste like liquid bread, with a yeasty, earthy richness not found in exported filtered dunkels.

History: The classic brown lager style of Munich which developed as a darker, malt-accented beer in part because of the moderately carbonate water. While originating in Munich, the style has become very popular throughout Bavaria (especially Franconia).

Ingredients: Grist is traditionally made up of German Munich malt (up to 100% in some cases) with the remainder German Pilsner malt. Small amounts of crystal malt can add dextrins and color but should not introduce excessive residual sweetness. Slight additions of roasted malts (such as Carafa or chocolate) may be used to improve color but should not add strong flavors. Noble German hop varieties and German lager yeast strains should be used. Moderately carbonate water. Often decoction mashed (up to a triple decoction) to enhance the malt flavors and create the depth of color.

OG: 1.048 – 1.056
IBUs: 18 – 28
FG: 1.010 – 1.016
SRM: 14 – 28
ABV: 4.5 – 5.6%

Fonte: www.bjcp.org
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15 anos 2 meses atrás #1867 por Alexandre Almeida Marcussi
Respondido por Alexandre Almeida Marcussi no tópico Re:Pretas
Sem contar a diferença básica: a brown ale é, bem, uma ale, enquanto a Munich Dunkel é uma lager... Mas aproveitando o gancho: quais são as brejas destes estilos (serve English brown ale também) que vcs mais gostam? Tenho a impressão de que são estilos mais difíceis de se encontrar no Brasil, com poucos rótulos representantes... Lembrando que American Brown Ale foi uma das categorias avaliadas no IV Concurso Nacional da ACervA. Será que veremos alguma cerveja produzida por uma micro nacional neste estilo?

Eu destaco uma excelente brown ale artesanal que tive a oportunidade de beber em Belo Horizonte, produzida pelo Clube do Vinil: a Vinil Sex Machine James Brown Ale. "The way I like it is the way it is! Get up!"

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Porque cervejas são boas para beber, mas também são boas para pensar
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15 anos 2 meses atrás #1869 por um visitante
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Pois é, tem essa questão básica também.

Parece que é difícil mesmo encontrar por aqui, nunca bebi uma American Brown Ale, e a única representante das English Brown Ale que bebi foi a New Castle, na época acho que gostei mas precisaria bebê-la outra vez para avaliar melhor.

A propósito, quando bebi a Eisenbahn Dunkel achei que estava provando uma Munich Dunkel, eis que para a minha surpresa o BREJAS a classifica como Schwarzbier. Já a humilde Nova Schin Munich é classificada de fato como sendo Munich Dunkel. É isso mesmo ?

Olha ai a minha neurose com estilos ! Rsrsrs...
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